Do you think the answers that Jehovah’s Witness give on yahoo answers are truthful regarding JW history?

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Question by King David: Do you think the answers that Jehovah's Witness give on yahoo answers are truthful regarding JW history?
All Jehovah's Witnesses that answer questions here seem to think that Jesus Christ second presence happened in 1914 and that it was predicted before the event. I cannot find these predictions from the founder Charles Taze Russell. He did make predictions but about 1914, but they were not what the Witnesses currently teach. It seem that the Witness don't know the original predictions made by Charles Taze Russell.

This doctrine about 1914 was created years after World War 1. It is as though they developed the doctrine post WWI and made it appear as though they created it before, making them look like they were prophets.
I googled "Jehovah's Witness History" and can't find any 1914 predictions that align with their current stance on "Christ Second Presence"

Here are some links I found that show what their predictions were regarding 1914 with scanned original material.

http://www.jwfiles.com/scans/ZionsWT1-15-1892p1355.htm

http://www.jwfiles.com/scans/TimeHand1908p101.htm

http://www.jwfiles.com/scans/1917V7p485.htm

http://www.jwfiles.com/scans/1Vindication1931p146.htm

http://www.believersweb.org/view.cfm?id=545&rc=1&list=multi

http://www.carm.org/jw/false_prophecies.htm

So my question is this do they
a) actually know the history about their predictions and to the best of their knowledge present them truthfully?
b) not know the history of their religion and are simply teaching what their origination says was predicted?
c) know what was predicted and teach their current stand disregarding the historical and documented failed predictions?
d) or other?

I ask this question in love and am not attacking the Jehovah's Witnesses, I am merely trying to determine if there is an intentional misleading, lack of knowledge about the history, or something else going on regarding these predictions.

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Answer by Tugstein™
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7 Responses to “Do you think the answers that Jehovah’s Witness give on yahoo answers are truthful regarding JW history?”

  1. Beavis Christ AM - Book 2 Says:
    January 28th, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    A lie told often enough becomes the truth. — Lenin

  2. nudebrit Says:
    January 28th, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    JWs are just very sad deluded individuals, whatever anyone says about the history of religious stupidity, from any belief group, is wrong.

  3. Papa Bear Says:
    January 28th, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    Since JW libraries get passed from one witness to another as one passes away, most older witnesses like my mother have libraries of the writings dating back over 100 years, so yes they do know. So what’s your point. They were a young, growing and learning. He did say the fulfillment of the signs of the last days would begin in 1914 and guess what? They did with the advent of WWI.

    JWs may have come from a simple, and some times, erratic beginnings, but at least they are making a valid effort to do better. You cannot say that for other religions who:

    Continue to get involved in politics;

    Lie to the IRS about not doing so in order to get their non-profit status;

    Avoids paying taxes on retail sales within the church;

    Allows immorality to creep into the church;

    Immortalizes their founders through the observance of a birthday, death, and/or anniversary of the founding of the church;

    Places a pictures of the founders in all their churches, so that all can see and pay obeisance;

    Gives tacit approval to the Theory of Evolution; and

    Doesn’t teach their followers to preach and teach the Bible, as Christ instructed.

  4. inlakesh073 Says:
    January 28th, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    JWs are largely ignorant as to their history. If they knew half of what really happened in the first 75 years or so of the organization they would leave immediately.

    Well, maybe not leave, but they would be experiencing much cognitive dissonance.

  5. sourskittles86 Says:
    January 28th, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Ok, here we go!

    Dan. 4:16,23,25,32 talk about seven times (Gentile times)
    The Septuagint reads the seven times as seven years
    Which involves 360 days times 7 equals 2,520 days

    Ez. 4:6,7 says a day for a year

    so 2,520 days is counted as 2,520 years

    So if we count from (Tishri 15) the seventh month when Judah and Jerusalem was destroyed (for this was the big prophecy fulfilled in that time Luke 21:24) up to 1 B.C.E. is 606 years. (There is no 0 year) So 2,520 minus the 606 equals (Tishri 15 or Oct. 4/5 1914) 1,914 years.

    Which was the year that Jesus threw Satan out of heaven. Rev. 12:7-12
    7 And war broke out in heaven: Mi´cha·el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven say:“Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God! 11 And they conquered him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their witnessing, and they did not love their souls even in the face of death. 12 On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”

    When you think about it… It makes perfect sense. Since then the world has never know peace. (Matt. 24:3,6,7,8,9)There are more natural disasters, food shortages. and now money is losing it’s value just like the Bible has said.

    There is also more to the explanation at Dan. 2:31-45 with King Nebuchadnezzar dream of the immense image and the world powers connected to the year 1914 but I don’t have enough space to bring the two together sorry!!!

  6. Princess Yum Yum Says:
    January 28th, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Depends on how long the J.W. has been a J.W. If, like my parents, you became a J.W. in the 1930′s then you knew all about the predictions regarding 1914, and that Armageddon was imminent and you couldn’t have a heavenly hope because the number of the 144,000 had been sealed and heaven was full up. Back in the 1930′s my parents believed that Jesus second (invisible) presence (as opposed to coming) happened in 1914. J.W’s still hang onto this belief – it is central to their religion.

    However, the current intake probably know absolutely nothing whatsoever about the history of this organisation and would denounce anyone who attempted to provide them with facts and evidence as being an apostate.

    So, the answer to your question is (b) for the new intake and (c) for the oldies. May I say, in their defence, that they honestly believe they speak the truth, in spite of any evidence to the contrary?

  7. troll to troll Says:
    January 28th, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    The current estimate of the average stay under the control of The Watchtower is now less than 20 years.

    Of course the newer JWs do not know the history of false promises.

    The Watchtower uses a cyclic terminology to mean “Armageddon is coming ” soon.

    Two variations I have read recently which referring to Armageddon is coming soon the “any moment now” doctrine are “the coming harvest” and “harvest season”. There are many variations of what people see as the same type of motivation as a hellfire and brimstone cultist uses to motivate their flock.

    Older JWs that have seen the changing doctrine do not see the full implications of the teaching they have been taught and then retaught in a opposite manner. They explain these away using “students learn more as they study” type of justification.

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